Comments on: Import Content into Publisher http://www.function1.com/2009/04/import-content-into-publisher/ Discussing all things portal, WebCenter Interaction, WebCenter Suite, Sharepoint, and related technologies. Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:00:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: DK http://www.function1.com/2009/04/import-content-into-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-58 DK Fri, 08 May 2009 11:21:29 +0000 http://wp.function1.com/index.php/262/uncategorized/import-content-into-publisher#comment-58 Thanks Hani, This really make sense. I was thinking some thing similar. This will depend on the type of migration one wants to do. Thanks DK Thanks Hani,
This really make sense. I was thinking some thing similar. This will depend on the type of migration one wants to do.
Thanks
DK

]]> By: Hani Atalla http://www.function1.com/2009/04/import-content-into-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-57 Hani Atalla Fri, 08 May 2009 04:21:08 +0000 http://wp.function1.com/index.php/262/uncategorized/import-content-into-publisher#comment-57 DK, Thanks for your post and your question is very valid. So if we've got a handful of distinct presentation and data entry templates in our current ALI or Oracle WebCenter Publisher deployment then it makes sense to just manually create these in advance in the target CMS (SharePoint, UCMS, Contribute, etc.) and just export the HTML from Publisher (stored in the long text field in its respective data entry template.) And, during the migration process, upon programmatically creating the content items in their new CMS destination, attach the content items to the equivalent of data entry and presentation templates in the target CMS system. In my view, that would make sense. Yet, in a large Portal deployment, you might have hundreds of presentation and data entry templates with different custom metadata tags (e.g. keywords, authors, titles, dates, etc.) that you might also need to export along with each content item's raw HTML. Then, the challenge becomes how to extract these custom properties from the data entry templates and create/map them in the target CMS system. I reckon it becomes a question of "level of effort" as far as which route one should take; i.e. manually create the equivalent of each data entry template in the target system or exert the effort in advance and include the functionality that would extract and map the custom properties in a migration tool. Thanks. Hani DK,
Thanks for your post and your question is very valid.
So if we’ve got a handful of distinct presentation and data entry templates in our current ALI or Oracle WebCenter Publisher deployment then it makes sense to just manually create these in advance in the target CMS (SharePoint, UCMS, Contribute, etc.) and just export the HTML from Publisher (stored in the long text field in its respective data entry template.) And, during the migration process, upon programmatically creating the content items in their new CMS destination, attach the content items to the equivalent of data entry and presentation templates in the target CMS system. In my view, that would make sense.
Yet, in a large Portal deployment, you might have hundreds of presentation and data entry templates with different custom metadata tags (e.g. keywords, authors, titles, dates, etc.) that you might also need to export along with each content item’s raw HTML. Then, the challenge becomes how to extract these custom properties from the data entry templates and create/map them in the target CMS system. I reckon it becomes a question of “level of effort” as far as which route one should take; i.e. manually create the equivalent of each data entry template in the target system or exert the effort in advance and include the functionality that would extract and map the custom properties in a migration tool.
Thanks.
Hani

]]> By: DK http://www.function1.com/2009/04/import-content-into-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-56 DK Wed, 06 May 2009 10:37:22 +0000 http://wp.function1.com/index.php/262/uncategorized/import-content-into-publisher#comment-56 Thanks, I am very new to Publisher and hardly knows much about it.I have some questions. Here we are trying to export the contents out of Publisher in case they have to be now managed by some other CMS say UCM. So why do we need to export presentation templates and data entry templates here as the other UCM will have its own mechanism to create the new contents ? Again a question arises that if we will export the published HTML of the contents how one would be able to modify them and make new revisions in the new CMS ? Please forget the questions if they are not relevant :-) Thanks DK Thanks,
I am very new to Publisher and hardly knows much about it.I have some questions.
Here we are trying to export the contents out of Publisher in case they have to be now managed by some other CMS say UCM. So why do we need to export presentation templates and data entry templates here as the other UCM will have its own mechanism to create the new contents ? Again a question arises that if we will export the published HTML of the contents how one would be able to modify them and make new revisions in the new CMS ?
Please forget the questions if they are not relevant :-)
Thanks
DK

]]> By: Hani Atalla http://www.function1.com/2009/04/import-content-into-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Hani Atalla Mon, 04 May 2009 19:38:38 +0000 http://wp.function1.com/index.php/262/uncategorized/import-content-into-publisher#comment-55 Sure, we'll be more than happy to do that. Actually that was our intent: to do some sample 2 way code, that is import content into Publisher as well as export content out of Publisher; though the latter might be a little more involved since we are talking content items, presentation templates, data entry templates, and custom properties. Stay tuned for more info. Thanks. Hani Sure, we’ll be more than happy to do that. Actually that was our intent: to do some sample 2 way code, that is import content into Publisher as well as export content out of Publisher; though the latter might be a little more involved since we are talking content items, presentation templates, data entry templates, and custom properties. Stay tuned for more info.
Thanks.
Hani

]]> By: DK http://www.function1.com/2009/04/import-content-into-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-54 DK Fri, 01 May 2009 06:51:39 +0000 http://wp.function1.com/index.php/262/uncategorized/import-content-into-publisher#comment-54 Could you please put some light on how the contents can be extracted from the publisher along with the metadata associated with it. Could you please put some light on how the contents can be extracted from the publisher along with the metadata associated with it.

]]> By: Hani Atalla http://www.function1.com/2009/04/import-content-into-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Hani Atalla Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:36:09 +0000 http://wp.function1.com/index.php/262/uncategorized/import-content-into-publisher#comment-53 <p>Geoff, </p> <p>Thanks for commenting. One of our clients considered using a third party CM system and the software cost was reasonable, what was prohibitive was the cost of building the integration of the 3rd party app into the WC stack in addition to the cost of migrating content off Publisher. </p> <p>You might be aware that Publisher 6.5 has a number of limitations that hinder a content editor’s productivity. Check out our last post on the <a href="http://www.function1.com/mt-search.cgi?search=publisher+6.5&IncludeBlogs=2" rel="nofollow">issues</a>. If you’ve encountered any of these issues, we’d be happy to help. But for the most part, our clients are sitting tight sticking to the Portal stack awaiting the integration with <a href="http://www.oracle.com/stellent/index.html" rel="nofollow">Stellent/UCMS</a> - the product that Oracle is pushing as an ALUI Publisher alternative. </p> <p> </p> <p>Thanks. </p> Geoff,

Thanks for commenting.
One of our clients considered using a third party CM system and the software cost was reasonable, what was prohibitive was the cost of building the integration of the 3rd party app into the WC stack in addition to the cost of migrating content off Publisher.

You might be aware that Publisher 6.5 has a number of limitations that hinder a content editor’s productivity. Check out our last post on the issues. If you’ve encountered any of these issues, we’d be happy to help. But for the most part, our clients are sitting tight sticking to the Portal stack awaiting the integration with Stellent/UCMS – the product that Oracle is pushing as an ALUI Publisher alternative.

 

Thanks.

]]> By: Geoff Garcia http://www.function1.com/2009/04/import-content-into-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Geoff Garcia Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:20:37 +0000 http://wp.function1.com/index.php/262/uncategorized/import-content-into-publisher#comment-52 Any comments on how satisfied clients have been in their transitions from Publisher to other CMS products? Did they just pull the plug on Publisher completely or do a phased in approach? Any pros/cons to the various products out there, especially in terms of incorporating Plumtree security? You could make a whole blog series just on case studies of such a change! Any comments on how satisfied clients have been in their transitions from Publisher to other CMS products?
Did they just pull the plug on Publisher completely or do a phased in approach? Any pros/cons to the various products out there, especially in terms of incorporating Plumtree security?
You could make a whole blog series just on case studies of such a change!

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